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smoguli 2023-06-26 04:06 PM

引用:
作者LDSKINGII
要納入聯邦統一管理代表要聽命聯邦命令,這些傭兵過慣隨波逐流的日子會跟你聯邦照表操課?

那待遇呢?付得起這些傭兵團薪水代表俄羅斯很有錢喔?正規軍不眼紅?

那付得起一樣的錢瓦格納那些戰士就一定會簽?瓦格納不只打仗它們還有別的生意要做吧

它們跟廚子去叛亂然後再去和聯邦簽合約不擔心秋後算帳?

就算瓦格納那些人最後傻到願意和聯邦簽合約,那代表以後有無法公開處理或者不願意公開處理的特別是軍事方面的事情普丁不就找不到人去處理?

反正有太多疑問無法解釋瓦格納只為了抗拒簽約才搞出這荒腔走板的事,如果不是演戲的話


不要急著下定論 , 先了解合同內容與瓦格納的錢是誰付的 , 另外俄合同兵最低20.4萬盧(不合獎勵與地區津貼), 瓦格納是24萬盧.

https://s.weibo.com/weibo?q=%23%E4%...%BE%E7%BA%A6%23
https://www.bbc.com/zhongwen/trad/world-66012863

smoguli 2023-06-26 04:16 PM

不講武德 , 騎臉輸出完就落跑.

https://t.me/song_infantry/20

smoguli 2023-06-26 04:30 PM

英國直接去向藍星第一防空軍學習還比較快吧.
:p

Putin’s ‘invincible’ hypersonic missiles could soon be intercepted
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/busines...n-interceptors/

Earstorm-5 2023-06-26 04:35 PM

"謀反本來就是軍人的特色
幾千年以來又有多少個傻子.自己把軍權交出去"

這絕對是正宗綠~ 數十年來如一日.

AirStorms 2023-06-26 09:45 PM

引用:
作者healthfirst.
我都是開地圖砲
沒有專指任何人 :p

俄羅斯不是鐵板一塊
認同
烏克蘭一樣會有內鬥
沒有任何國家是鐵板一塊

------

埔里叛變這件事
普丁有可能沒在瓦格納裡頭安插眼線嗎?
為什麼不在事件發生前就阻止? :shock:

2021年美國國會山莊襲擊事件也是
twitter上資訊隨處可見
FBI卻沒任何阻止的動作
嗯....... :shock:

別急著否認啊,
菁英哥也不見得是你說的那種人。

畢竟黃俄孝子,是指國內的那群人,
跟台灣人沒關係的。

別緊張。

AirStorms 2023-06-26 09:50 PM

引用:
作者Earstorm-5
那個反串的真是孜孜不忘, 也吱吱不停, 其實現在才真的有點興趣, 不然老是磨烏克蘭也沒意思.

1. 其實俄羅斯兩個親西方是不同的, 前面那個蠢蛋才是真的"親"西方, 然後把自己國家搞分裂. 後面普丁其實是有頭腦的去理解西方, 然後看哪些他想用在自己國內, 然而他沒有等到時間, 也無法控制前面人留下來的分裂殘局.

2. 現在開始杯子藏蛋的遊戲了. (不懂這個典故的人, 還麻煩自行Google) 明面上的好人壞人反抗軍都做不得準, 要追好裡面的蛋, 而不是看上面是什麼杯子, 這也說明了一件事, 俄羅斯真的不爽了, 問題是蛋最後要怎麼用?

當然, 我有可能猜錯, 這就是一個典型反抗軍, 如果是那樣, 就真的很好很單純.


如果猜錯了,你現在的表現就是先知,連猜錯都能預告。

反過來如果猜對了,那還不是你先知的最佳證據嗎?

不管對錯
左右你都是先知預言家。

難怪是菁英。

healthfirst. 2023-06-26 10:58 PM

引用:
作者AirStorms
別急著否認啊,
菁英哥也不見得是你說的那種人。

畢竟黃俄孝子,是指國內的那群人,
跟台灣人沒關係的。

別緊張。

1.
你不是我的上級
不管你說什麼
我不需要承認或否認

2.
這邊ID沒有人是菁英哥

3.
開地圖砲單純是因為怕被告而已
沒指名道姓就是可受公評
所以過往言論涉及罵人的全都是開地圖砲 :p

LDSKINGII 2023-06-27 12:21 AM

廚子現身在社群媒體發表約11分鐘談話,他說俄國防部要瓦格納7/1起即刻消失但白俄願意收留 :laugh:

在此同時俄外長拉夫羅夫說瓦格納將在俄羅斯國防部的祝福下繼續在馬利共和國和中非共和國進行訓練和作戰行動

廚子還說沒有人要和國防部簽合約但坦承還是有極少數大約1-2%簽了


Prigozhin claims Russian defense ministry wanted Wagner to "cease to exist" starting on July 1

The Russian Defense Ministry had planned for Wagner private military group to "cease to exist" starting on July 1, the group's founder Yevgeny Prigozhin claimed Monday in an audio message.

"No one agreed to sign a contract with the Defense Ministry, since everyone knows very well from the current situation and their experience during the special military operation that this will lead to a complete loss of combat capability," Prigozhin said in the audio message.

But then he proceeded to say that some fighters did sign contracts with the Ministry of Defense, but claimed that it was only a minimal number.

"Those fighters who decided that they were ready to move to the Ministry of Defense did so. But this is the minimum number, estimated at 1-2%. All the arguments to keep PMC Wagner were presented, but none were implemented," he said.

廚子說向莫斯科進軍是抗議示威,無意推翻政權

Prigozhin says march toward Moscow was a demonstration of protest and not intended to overturn power

Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin released new audio Monday explaining his decision to turn around his march on Moscow.

Prigozhin said he wanted to avoid Russian bloodshed and also said the march was a demonstration of protest and not intended to overturn power in the country.

This is Prigozhin's first audio message since announcing on Saturday night that his column was turning back "to avoid bloodshed."

"Overnight, we have walked 780 kilometers (about 484 miles). Two hundred-something kilometers (about 125 miles) were left to Moscow," Prigozhin claimed in the latest audio message, despite no evidence that his Wagner forces made it that close to the Russian capital. “Not a single soldier on the ground was killed."

“We regret that we were forced to strikes on aircraft," he said. "...but these aircraft dropped bombs and launched missile strikes."

The Wagner boss also claimed in the audio message that about 30 of his fighters died in the Russian military's attack on the mercenary group on Friday. Prigozhin said the attack came days before Wagner was due to leave its positions on June 30 hand over equipment to the Southern Military District in Rostov, Russia.

The purpose of his forces' march toward Moscow, the Wagner boss said, was to prevent the "destruction" of Wagner private military company, and "to bring to justice those who, through their unprofessional actions, made a huge number of mistakes during the special military operation."

Prigozhin said the march stopped when the detachment "made a reconnaissance of the area, and it was obvious that at that moment a lot of blood would be shed. We felt that demonstrating what we were going to do was sufficient."

"At this time, Alexander Lukashenko extended his hand and offered to find solutions for the further work of Wagner PMC in legal jurisdiction," he added.

More background: Prigozhin had agreed to leave Russia for Belarus on Saturday following a deal apparently brokered by Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko which ended the armed rebellion.

According to Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, Lukashenko had suggested the deal to Russian President Vladimir Putin to help resolve the brief mutiny, during a telephone conversation on Saturday morning in order to "avoid the great bloodshed that would inevitably occur if the rebel detachments continued to move towards Moscow. This proposal was supported by President Putin."

smoguli 2023-06-27 01:32 AM

1個附加檔案
哈哈 , 有趣的選點.

ObserverJC 2023-06-27 03:32 AM

Russia-Ukraine war latest: Kremlin reportedly threatened Wagner families as soldiers marched to Moscow
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-u...-140513024.html


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